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Albert Bates: Fiddle Player, Photographer, and Farmer

Albert BATES was my maternal great grandfather.  I’ve written about him several times.  You can find those posts here:
Looking for Land in All the Wrong Places
I Know What You Did That Day
Dettie Louisa GIBSON BATES and the Sibling Melting Pot (Although this one is about Dettie, you will find a photograph of a young Albert BATES included in the post.)
Not Breaking, But Succeeding- Lum’s Apple Orchard (You can find a photo of Albert as a child here.)
Albert was born 1 February 1881 in Hiwasse, Benton County, Arkansas to George and Mary (SEELY) BATES.  He was the first of four children- 3 boys and a girl.  When Albert was born, the family lived in Hiwasse, Benton County, Arkansas.  He was 6 years old before his little brother Charlie came into the world.  He was 10 when his brother Herman was born and 13 when his sister Vesta was born.  As far as I know, Albert lived in the same area for these first 13 years.  Because the 1890 census was destroyed, the first record I’ve found for Albert is the 1900 census.  The census enumerator came by the BATES’ home on 5 June 1900.  Albert was 19 years old and single.  He was living at home with his parents and siblings.  He was working as a photographer.  This information about his job supports family stories that he worked as an itinerant photographer when he was young.  I would absolutely love to have a photograph he took although I’m not sure how I would identify his photographs.
Family stories say that he would travel around, take photographs and play his fiddle at barn dances.  It was on one of these “fiddle and photograph” trips that he met his future wife, Dettie Louisa GIBSON.  Dettie was living in Dickson Township, Benton County, Arkansas in 1900 so maybe Albert didn’t venture out too far to do his job.  My mom and granny used to tell me that after Albert and Dettie met they wrote letters back and forth to each other until they married.
By 1900, photography had been in existence for about 60-70 years or so.  Even so, in the early 1900’s photographers were still trying to legitimize photography as an art form.   Also in 1900, the Kodak Brownie camera was finally reaching the middle class in America.  Kodak had been a brand name for 13 years and the x-ray was only 5 years old.   Tintypes were still prevalent in those days and along with developing tintypes came the use of extremely hazardous chemicals like mercury chloride.  I don’t know what types of photos Albert took nor do I know if he would have had to use mercury chloride but the possibility was there.
1900 photographer
ca. 1900 photographer (not Albert) with a folding plate camera; photo found at Antiquecameras.net.
Now back to that fiddle…I wish I had a picture of it.  Sadly, I don’t.  Like I said before, Albert played at barn dances.  The purpose of a barn dance was to get people together and have fun dancing, of course!  It was a social gathering for people in the community.  A way to spend the evening with friends and meet new people.  Just like dances of today.  The Library of Congress website has a great page where you can listen to old fiddle songs being played.  Here is one from their page:
Arkansas Traveler
I definitely recommend you take some time and visit their site and listen to a few of the songs.  Close your eyes and imagine them there- Albert playing, Dettie dancing.  And then, maybe, let someone else take over the fiddle playing and imagine them dancing together.  Two people, falling in love, before you were ever even a thought in someone’s mind.  I think that’s where I want to leave my great grandparents today.  Dancing the night away in someone’s Arkansas barn, just happy to spend a little time together, long before I was ever a thought in their minds.
Love,
Lisa @ Days of Our Lives blog
 
Sources:
Britannica.com
Khanacademy.org
Softschools.com
Edinphoto.org.uk

Dettie Louisa GIBSON BATES and the Sibling Melting Pot

On this day in 1957 my maternal great grandmother Dettie GIBSON BATES passed away. On this same day in 1828, Bart’s maternal 3rd great grandfather, Heinrich Wolhelm WOLF was born. As for the blog, I’ll celebrate Dettie’s life today and celebrate Heinrich’s tomorrow. I can’t wait to get started!
I’m going to tell you a secret. I don’t always know what story I’m going to tell when I sit down to write. Sometimes I sit down and I’m stuck because I just don’t see the story. Dettie was one of those. I was surprised that I’d never written specifically about her and yet I really didn’t know what story to tell you about her. When I’m stuck I have a formula to get “un-stuck”. Usually by the time I’m done with the formula, I’m able to keep writing and finish the story. With Dettie, I pulled through the formula and by the time I was starting the second paragraph I knew what I was going to write. Except, I didn’t write it. This is one of those stories that hijacked ME. I was going to go one way and the story said, “Nope! THIS is the story that’s going to be told today!” I have to tell you, I never would have chosen this story line about siblings but this is the one that was dying to get out today so here it is. I hope you enjoy it.
Dettie was my maternal great grandmother. She was born in 1883 in Kansas to James Thomas “JT” and Lucinda DOW GIBSON.

Portrait of sisters Dettie and Barbara Gibson.
Portrait of sisters Dettie and Barbara Gibson.

Dettie is sitting and her sister, Barbara Myrtle, is standing.
My mom doesn’t recall much about Dettie but says what she remembers is that Dettie was a small woman. One of Dettie’s legs was shorter the other. Dettie also lost a finger in a canning factory accident. If you look closely you can see that she has only 3 fingers in this photo of she and her husband, Albert Lewis BATES.

Portrait of Albert and Dettie (Gibson) Bates.
Portrait of Albert and Dettie (Gibson) Bates.

Albert and Dettie GIBSON BATES’ wedding photograph.
I wanted to tell you stories only about Dettie but her mom (Lucinda) kept poking her head into the story. You can go here for background about Dettie’s mom but long story short- she couldn’t keep a man…or maybe the men couldn’t keep her! I’m not sure which way it was but every time- and I mean EVERY time- I research Lucinda I find a new record. Her background lays the foundation for Dettie’s story.
The first census that Dettie was enumerated in was the State of Kansas census of 1885. Dettie was one year old. The census is interesting to me not because of Dettie but because Dettie’s mom is listed as ‘Mulatto’. I have not found any evidence of her being Native American nor that she is any race other than Caucasian but I am still searching.
By the time the next census rolled around Dettie’s mom had remarried to David JONES. Other minors in the home in this 1900 Federal census for Arkansas were Dettie’s sister Barbara and her half-brother Leander. Dettie also had two other half-siblings through her mother plus at least one child borne by her mother that I cannot account for yet), at least 10 half-siblings through her father, at least four additional step-siblings through her stepfather David, and at least two additional step-siblings through her stepfather Robert GATEWOOD. By those numbers this family should have exactly ZERO secrets! We should be floating in information! And today, once again, I found new information about Lucinda. That information provided the two GATEWOOD step-siblings I just told you about. The other thing I discovered today is that unlike what Lucinda told public officials, she wasn’t a widow of Robert GATEWOOD. All that time I spent looking for his death certificate circa 1910-1920 in Missouri was in vain. Just today I located him. He lived until at least 1920 and was living in Oklahoma at that time. He outlived Lucinda by at least a year.
THE SIBLINGS
Siblings are such an important part of life and Dettie had an abundance of them! Since she had so many, I want to close by giving you a list of the ones I know about.
Dettie’s full sister:
Barbara Myrtle GIBSON (married Frank FISHER)
Dettie’s half-siblings through her mom (and mom’s several husbands):
Mary Rebecca ALBIN (married Ulyssus GOSSETT)
William Edgar (ALBIN) GIESE (he was adopted out at a very young age)
Leander B. JONES (one of only two known siblings younger than Dettie)
Dettie’s half-siblings through her dad:
William Lafayette GIBSON
Jane Lucinda GIBSON (married a HENRY)
Mary E. GIBSON (married James McHALEY)
James Melvin GIBSON
Martha GIBSON
Oscar GIBSON
Samuel Luke A. GIBSON
Eliza J. GIBSON (married Issacher KELLUM)
Reed Isiah GIBSON
Ella Amanda GIBSON (married Shorty LONG; I wrote a blog post about this couple here)
Dettie’s step-siblings through her mom’s several husbands:
Emma JONES (married Charles KROPP)
William JONES
John H. JONES
Samuel L. JONES
Felix GATEWOOD
Harry Monroe GATEWOOD (one of only two known siblings younger than Dettie)
If you count the children that George ALBIN had after his marriage with Dettie’s mom ended (before Dettie was born) you would have to include these step-siblings on top of the ones already named:
Clara Lula ALBIN
Clyde Emmerson ALBIN
Ethel Eliza ALBIN (married Ray F. GLENN)
In addition to all of these children, there is one child I have been unable to account for and am assuming either this baby was adopted out or was born and died in between census years. On the 1900 census, Lucinda stated she had given birth to 6 children. I have only been able to account for 5 of these children. I’m still holding out hope that one of us finds this child.
I hope you’ve enjoyed getting a peek into Dettie’s childhood. It would be interesting to know what kinds of relationships she had with all these siblings. Perhaps one day I’ll find out. Hug your siblings tight today. Whatever squabbles you have between you, set them aside- it isn’t worth losing a sibling over.


Until tomorrow,
Lisa @ Days of Our Lives blog

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